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	<title>Comments on: Mansfield Town vote to keep Chester in the BSP</title>
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		<title>By: RRRR</title>
		<link>http://www.alwaysamber.co.uk/blog/2010/02/mansfield-town-vote-to-keep-chester-in-the-bsp/comment-page-1/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>RRRR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 23:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely there cannot be anyone involved in the Conference who would vote to keep Chester alive in its present form, or under this ownership. But that the Mansfield owner should make his statement to the contrary is all that&#039;s wrong with football at every level - secretely ALL supporters rejoice in the demise of a rival, proportionally few actually genuinely wish others well. And to to truthful, I don&#039;t have huge sympathy for the likes of Portsmouth, Leeds, West Ham etc (as club owners, I don&#039;t mean the supporters) for overspending hugely in order to get the edge on rivals, thus securing success (and ongoing Prem riches) at other rival teams expense. But PLEASE consider this about the Chester City situation - virtually ALL of its own supporters are pleading with the authorities and rivals for them to help kill the current club off - and are OFFICIALLY boycotting all home games (season ticket holders only turning up) - how often does THAT occur?
We&#039;ve had a seriously &#039;fishy&#039; situation going on with ownership of the club, owners who (again) claim vast debts are owing, mostly tio them (since an August clean start, over £700,000? yet these owners appear to have paid few, if any, bills during this time, so how does that math work out?).
Part of why we ended up with a killer 25pt (rather than 10pt) administration deduction this season was because the government agencies didn&#039;t believe the previous debt that the same owners said we had (£4 million to them, plus £290,000 to other creditos) was proven - and yet the very same people were allowed to buy the club back? The same family were in charge of Barrow during a previous demise. There&#039;s clearly far more beneath the surface, but no one of any enforcement power seems interested... in little clubs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely there cannot be anyone involved in the Conference who would vote to keep Chester alive in its present form, or under this ownership. But that the Mansfield owner should make his statement to the contrary is all that&#8217;s wrong with football at every level &#8211; secretely ALL supporters rejoice in the demise of a rival, proportionally few actually genuinely wish others well. And to to truthful, I don&#8217;t have huge sympathy for the likes of Portsmouth, Leeds, West Ham etc (as club owners, I don&#8217;t mean the supporters) for overspending hugely in order to get the edge on rivals, thus securing success (and ongoing Prem riches) at other rival teams expense. But PLEASE consider this about the Chester City situation &#8211; virtually ALL of its own supporters are pleading with the authorities and rivals for them to help kill the current club off &#8211; and are OFFICIALLY boycotting all home games (season ticket holders only turning up) &#8211; how often does THAT occur?<br />
We&#8217;ve had a seriously &#8216;fishy&#8217; situation going on with ownership of the club, owners who (again) claim vast debts are owing, mostly tio them (since an August clean start, over £700,000? yet these owners appear to have paid few, if any, bills during this time, so how does that math work out?).<br />
Part of why we ended up with a killer 25pt (rather than 10pt) administration deduction this season was because the government agencies didn&#8217;t believe the previous debt that the same owners said we had (£4 million to them, plus £290,000 to other creditos) was proven &#8211; and yet the very same people were allowed to buy the club back? The same family were in charge of Barrow during a previous demise. There&#8217;s clearly far more beneath the surface, but no one of any enforcement power seems interested&#8230; in little clubs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ean chester fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ean chester fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the owner of chester has run up depts totaling£ 700,000 and thats only from when we went into addmin and the company changed into his son owning it that was aug09

now the players have not been payed for about 3 months 
the rent on the ground to the council has not been paid 
club staff have not been paid
the coach compy haven&#039;t been paid
and the police 

and the likes of you chairman wish to keep us in the bsp  why???

we  can not forfill our match&#039;s 
we have i think 8 players
and to get the man out we the fans are boycotting ,now you must know how much that hurts the fans..
we also have hmrc after us on 10th march so we may be liquidated

vote to kick us out and we the fans will form a club to be proud of owned and run by the fans like afc telford

so tell your friends to get this message out there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the owner of chester has run up depts totaling£ 700,000 and thats only from when we went into addmin and the company changed into his son owning it that was aug09</p>
<p>now the players have not been payed for about 3 months<br />
the rent on the ground to the council has not been paid<br />
club staff have not been paid<br />
the coach compy haven&#8217;t been paid<br />
and the police </p>
<p>and the likes of you chairman wish to keep us in the bsp  why???</p>
<p>we  can not forfill our match&#8217;s<br />
we have i think 8 players<br />
and to get the man out we the fans are boycotting ,now you must know how much that hurts the fans..<br />
we also have hmrc after us on 10th march so we may be liquidated</p>
<p>vote to kick us out and we the fans will form a club to be proud of owned and run by the fans like afc telford</p>
<p>so tell your friends to get this message out there</p>
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		<title>By: Nath Auty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nath Auty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps if you read up on our sitauation your opinion may be changed.

Whatever matches we play from now on (and that&#039;s a big IF...) will result in three points for the opposition anyway, so why try to safeguard the points you&#039;ve gained against us when it will prove fruitless in the long run?

The Conference will be made to look ridiculous now. Why they put it a vote, I&#039;ll never know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps if you read up on our sitauation your opinion may be changed.</p>
<p>Whatever matches we play from now on (and that&#8217;s a big IF&#8230;) will result in three points for the opposition anyway, so why try to safeguard the points you&#8217;ve gained against us when it will prove fruitless in the long run?</p>
<p>The Conference will be made to look ridiculous now. Why they put it a vote, I&#8217;ll never know.</p>
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		<title>By: m1cksut</title>
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		<dc:creator>m1cksut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ungrateful gits.
if you had turned out to suport your club you wouldnt be in quite such a mess.
and we speak from a position of knowledge,  we had our own robber baron in charge
for 15 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ungrateful gits.<br />
if you had turned out to suport your club you wouldnt be in quite such a mess.<br />
and we speak from a position of knowledge,  we had our own robber baron in charge<br />
for 15 years.</p>
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		<title>By: MPW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MPW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chester City FC is already dead, the club will not be able to finish the season.  The fans know it, the Conference know it. So why make it more difficult for yourselves dragging it out even longer.  I would have thought your board would have been more sympathetic, considering the situation your were in not so long ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chester City FC is already dead, the club will not be able to finish the season.  The fans know it, the Conference know it. So why make it more difficult for yourselves dragging it out even longer.  I would have thought your board would have been more sympathetic, considering the situation your were in not so long ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Nath Auty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nath Auty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on comment.

Perhaps Mr. Perry wouldn&#039;t mind paying all of our bills, coach travel, and players&#039; wages so we can actually fulfill our fixtures!

The Conference have bottled this once again by putting it to the vote, where each club will have their own agenda. We are highly likely to go into liquidation next month anyway so the points will probably be docked one way or another anyway.

Do the right thing for the future of our club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on comment.</p>
<p>Perhaps Mr. Perry wouldn&#8217;t mind paying all of our bills, coach travel, and players&#8217; wages so we can actually fulfill our fixtures!</p>
<p>The Conference have bottled this once again by putting it to the vote, where each club will have their own agenda. We are highly likely to go into liquidation next month anyway so the points will probably be docked one way or another anyway.</p>
<p>Do the right thing for the future of our club.</p>
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